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when you throw in the higher state taxes in cities and states promising millionaire tax hikes, not just affecting if millionaires. that brings us to 60%. that is 15 points higher. this isn't specious math. this is logical math. courtesy of the republican strategy hellbent on ignoring that for fear of getting it on rates. the republicans risk being snookered by the democrats who know the opponent's number. blinded in the grand old quest to keep rates moving up, they don't see the other side just taken them to cleaners. we are going to debate this tonight. you can watch other choices. but you can still watch him and watch me. i am a nice appetizer then. that's how i look at it. appetizer. if you did online shopping i'd be a good buy. you know a lot about the cyber bye. >> demand it! >> no. >> you were shopping. >> i was not. not doing anything. >> you were. >> was not. >> that is a laptop.
when you throw in the higher state taxes in cities and states promising millionaire tax hikes, not just affecting if millionaires. that brings us to 60%. that is 15 points higher. this isn't specious math. this is logical math. courtesy of the republican strategy hellbent on ignoring that for fear of getting it on rates. the republicans risk being snookered by the democrats who know the opponent's number. blinded in the grand old quest to keep rates moving up, they don't see the other side just...
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reform and spending cuts over the raising of taxes. here is the senate republican leader on what the g.o.p. is offering. >> without compromising our principles we put skin in the game and recognition to the fact while democrats don't run this town, neither do we. we have been responsible even as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that you will not materialize later. the american people have seen that game before. they won't be fooled again. >> house republicans are planning to bring in on wednesday a number of c.e.o.'s of caterpillar, goldman sachs and all state and other key players on fiscal includes including erskine bowles co-author of the simpson-bowles and the republicans want the business community to hear their ideas and make the case a big deal should include spending cuts and reforms. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from capitol hill. grover norquist will join neil cavuto next hour and talk about breaking the anti-tax pledge by some republicans. >> the generation leader who brokered the
reform and spending cuts over the raising of taxes. here is the senate republican leader on what the g.o.p. is offering. >> without compromising our principles we put skin in the game and recognition to the fact while democrats don't run this town, neither do we. we have been responsible even as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that you will not materialize later. the american people have seen that game before. they won't be fooled again....
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man are they very create on the tax front. now tax of a higr gas tax to fund construction projects. to slash all deducts and exemptions not just for the rich even adjust mortgage formula for example, likely veros in those taxpayers below $250,00 $250,000 threshold, more like a hundred grand crowd now. a health care surtax on the rich to cover a program whose costs are already spiralling. but not much cost on underlying abuses, you see a pattern here. i do not care whether you are on the left or right, the way we're going about this is not fair. no creative solutions to cut spending, a lot of ideas to raise revenues. taking a shine to spending our money, but never saving us money. we'll debate this. with wealth manager. if you want to look serious you need to put big spending cuts on the table. and we have, i just call him my toke an liberal friend. rick yo unger. you are not buying this. >> i see some, but the problem, you have to be careful not to create a new disaster by trying to solve another one, in 1980, 83% of americans had a defined pension benefit plan at work today that is
man are they very create on the tax front. now tax of a higr gas tax to fund construction projects. to slash all deducts and exemptions not just for the rich even adjust mortgage formula for example, likely veros in those taxpayers below $250,00 $250,000 threshold, more like a hundred grand crowd now. a health care surtax on the rich to cover a program whose costs are already spiralling. but not much cost on underlying abuses, you see a pattern here. i do not care whether you are on the left or...
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neil: it would be a tax, a climate tax, really? >> no,. neil: what do you doll th call g crazed. >> we have promised to give to global climate fund. neil: if you are paying that money, that is more money than you pay now, so, -- -- what it is a dessert. >> part of our shared responsibility? we have a responsibility. neil: you don't call that a tax? >> it's not a tax. >> what it is. >> a shared responsibility. neil: if you force me to give you money, i don't have to call it a tax, but it sure as hell will feel like a tax. >> you are giving me the money, i'm not forcing you to give me the money, it is in our shared interest to give me that. neil: you tell that to the wealthy countries, you think they will go along, and say she is absolutely right. >> if they were smart, they would. >> what do you say 10 years from now, are still a young woman i will belong retired, but, 10 years, and it has not done squat. you say oh, my god, it is all wrong. >> it won't, because investment will be worth a -- it will payoff. without these countries, adapting
neil: it would be a tax, a climate tax, really? >> no,. neil: what do you doll th call g crazed. >> we have promised to give to global climate fund. neil: if you are paying that money, that is more money than you pay now, so, -- -- what it is a dessert. >> part of our shared responsibility? we have a responsibility. neil: you don't call that a tax? >> it's not a tax. >> what it is. >> a shared responsibility. neil: if you force me to give you money, i don't...
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anti-tax champion grover norquist last night told me he's keeping republicans to the no tax increase pledge they made decades ago. but should his party back away from that promise? joining me in his first interview since the election, reince priebus, chairman of the republican national committee. welcome back, mr. priebus. how are you? >> doing great, piers. how are you? >> you have been keeping your head below the paraput since the shellacking you guys took in the election. what is your reaction to the pretty poor defeat? >> well, i think that we got to look at everything that we're doing. i think that's what we have to do. i don't think you can draw any quick conclusions other than the fact that we lost and we know that. but i think in order to get back in the game, you've got to look at and do a full autopsy of what happened, what we did well, what we didn't do well, what we can do better in the next year with two governors' races coming up and two years later, then four years from now. so what we're going to do is we want to bring everyone together. leaders from across the countr
anti-tax champion grover norquist last night told me he's keeping republicans to the no tax increase pledge they made decades ago. but should his party back away from that promise? joining me in his first interview since the election, reince priebus, chairman of the republican national committee. welcome back, mr. priebus. how are you? >> doing great, piers. how are you? >> you have been keeping your head below the paraput since the shellacking you guys took in the election. what is...
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when you tax something usually get less of it, like cigarette taxes to curb smoking or carbon tax to curb carbon emissions. financial advisers say individual investors are considering doing their investing elsewhere. other countries because of the higher taxes. now, the investing mobile bullies that wealthy folks should have to pay a minimum tax. look. there is already an alternative minimum tax set up with just that idea, to catch of the scofflaws who don't pay their fair share. unfortunately the brain surgeons on capitol hill have never in next the tax for inflation. knight captures 4 million americans, many of which it would be a strain to consider wealthy. even if you had of -- led all the bush tax cut expired the revenue would only fund the government for eight half days. aid now have days. we need a better solution than that. the comments are based on the idea that there are no unintended consequences of government policy. people embrace changes, and the world keeps on spending. i believe that results would be catastrophic. capital flight to my jobs left unfilled, weaken the ec
when you tax something usually get less of it, like cigarette taxes to curb smoking or carbon tax to curb carbon emissions. financial advisers say individual investors are considering doing their investing elsewhere. other countries because of the higher taxes. now, the investing mobile bullies that wealthy folks should have to pay a minimum tax. look. there is already an alternative minimum tax set up with just that idea, to catch of the scofflaws who don't pay their fair share. unfortunately...
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sales taxes are up. most americans are paying more in taxes than ever before. at the same time wealthy americans are paying less than ever before. this is an appropriate move. >> we'll be talking more about social security taxes and also goldman sachs. you'll enjoy that, robert. but neera, you know the hill better than anyone. will they get this done by the end of the year? or are there sticking points we're not seeing? >> this is the most optimistic i have ever been. and you know, that's not saying a lot sometimes because this whole debate around the budget has been like losing the football for awhile. but i actually think that you're seeing republicans moving in a way that they obviously didn't do, and you're seeing an understanding -- what i think is really important is there are a lot of people like bill crystal coming forward, governors are trying to make a play here. they represent whole states as well. so i think you're seeing a kind of break in this impass or fever that we haven't seen in the past. as you said, there's reasonable common ground to make i
sales taxes are up. most americans are paying more in taxes than ever before. at the same time wealthy americans are paying less than ever before. this is an appropriate move. >> we'll be talking more about social security taxes and also goldman sachs. you'll enjoy that, robert. but neera, you know the hill better than anyone. will they get this done by the end of the year? or are there sticking points we're not seeing? >> this is the most optimistic i have ever been. and you know,...
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i just would rather have a consumption tax than a tax on income tax rates. and by the way, i believe the president, his ideas as they're formulating behind a carbon tax, he would rebate, he would charge extra for gasoline -- for oil, natural gas, and other fossil fuels and coal, but then he would rebate the money through the payroll tax to middle class and poor people. that's how he would do it. it's interesting. >> i'm not shocked, right? spread it all around. stuart: exactly. i have to break in for some preaking news. we have been talking about a union protest at chicago's o'hare airport, possibly making air travel is a bit of a hassle today. well, our jeff flock is at o'hare. he tells us flights have been cancelled. 400 delayed because of dense fog until 1:00 p.m. eastern. if you are traveling today, you want to know that. big deal at o'hare. we have hostess back again in liquidation. the union blames poor management. the management blames the union. but up next a guest that blames you the consumer for the company's shutdown. and she's happy about it. she
i just would rather have a consumption tax than a tax on income tax rates. and by the way, i believe the president, his ideas as they're formulating behind a carbon tax, he would rebate, he would charge extra for gasoline -- for oil, natural gas, and other fossil fuels and coal, but then he would rebate the money through the payroll tax to middle class and poor people. that's how he would do it. it's interesting. >> i'm not shocked, right? spread it all around. stuart: exactly. i have to...
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he created 10% tax rate and took lower income people off the tax roles. because of it, the rich are making more and paying more in taxes. before reagan took office. the bottom 50 paid 7%. the top 50 paid 90. now the top 50 pay 98%. the bottom 50 only pay two. >> bob: what do the top 5% pay? >> andrea: over 80%. 90%? >> bob: are you not embarrassed defend this? >> dana: embarrassed that the policy is so bad and you defend it and you act it will be a great savior and you know it's not. >> bob: i'm getting rap for people making half a billion snore if you do, what president obama is suggesting, raise taxes on the 250 and above you come up with 82 to $83 billion. >> bob: take in account the spending cuts that come in to that. >> dana: what spending cuts? show us. i would love to see any spending cuts. i'll believe it when i see it. >> brian: i think we have to give credit to producers of this world and not vilify them. we have to do what will allow them to grow the economy. to hire more people. >> eric: online for this -- >> brian: leave it there. >> eric: co
he created 10% tax rate and took lower income people off the tax roles. because of it, the rich are making more and paying more in taxes. before reagan took office. the bottom 50 paid 7%. the top 50 paid 90. now the top 50 pay 98%. the bottom 50 only pay two. >> bob: what do the top 5% pay? >> andrea: over 80%. 90%? >> bob: are you not embarrassed defend this? >> dana: embarrassed that the policy is so bad and you defend it and you act it will be a great savior and you...
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on the middle class, tax the rich more. there were even calls in that room for higher minimum wages. clearly, no one wants to cut out the safety net that working people are promised for their lives of diligence, using their brains and brawn to build our country. >> mr. prince, republicans claim that the president's plan is bad for small business. why do you think they are wrong? >> let me tell you. the president's plans so far have helped my business. from 2008 to 2011, things were very flat. sales were flat or even down. as the stimulus started to kick in, we started seeing month to month, every month sense late 2010, our sales go up. it is consumers having more can have dense, having more money. obama care was huge. i provide health insurance for all my employees. the aca is underwriting small businesses doing that helped me absorb a huge increase because i have a couple of folks who work for me who are going through some illness problems. >> lee saunders, your members of afscme, will be financially hurt if we go over the
on the middle class, tax the rich more. there were even calls in that room for higher minimum wages. clearly, no one wants to cut out the safety net that working people are promised for their lives of diligence, using their brains and brawn to build our country. >> mr. prince, republicans claim that the president's plan is bad for small business. why do you think they are wrong? >> let me tell you. the president's plans so far have helped my business. from 2008 to 2011, things were...
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it never has been a tax issue. we have the same amount of revenue coming in in 2012 tat we had in 2007, but we spend a trillion dollars more per year now th we did five years ago. thiss a spending issue. gerri: spending or revenue, that is, the amount of money taken in by the federal government has recovered, and it's doing much better. >> right. gerri: turning your tarns to a conversation going on for days lately. the most recent adherent oklahoma congressman tom cole saying, look, republicans need to compromise. they need to keep tax cuts in place forpeople earning $250,000 and less. heays it's time to make a change and now people on the hill saying that the g.o.p. is splintering. what do you say? >> that's not true. actually, what tom was trying to say was it's a tax call thing. tom is against raising taxes on any level. he's against raising taxes on all folks, but have agreement with the president onhis group that's $250,000 and less, clear the table and make the bracket.ions in the upper he's against raising r
it never has been a tax issue. we have the same amount of revenue coming in in 2012 tat we had in 2007, but we spend a trillion dollars more per year now th we did five years ago. thiss a spending issue. gerri: spending or revenue, that is, the amount of money taken in by the federal government has recovered, and it's doing much better. >> right. gerri: turning your tarns to a conversation going on for days lately. the most recent adherent oklahoma congressman tom cole saying, look,...
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simplifying the tax code, keeping those marginal tax rates low. let's not create a worse in the distortions that already exist in the tax code. dagen: great to see you. take care. we will see you soon. connell: there it is. closing loopholes with norquist. we consider that a tax hike. dagen: lindsey graham. you made the point. loud and clear. a lot of people backing off. connell: backing off the pledge. people will be losing their benefits at the end of the year if congress does not act now. dagen: the money game for the holidays. americans are sitting at their computer screens, not working, looking for the perfect gift. take a look at oil. see where it is trading today. oil is at $87 a barrel. connell: eight quarter past the hour. we will have stocks now as we do every 15 minutes. nicole: we are at our session lows of the day. we certainly had a nice run up last week. over a 100-point game. we are losing about 100 points. i just checked on the dow jones industrials. twenty-eight of the names out of 30 were in the red. intel and caterpillar were t
simplifying the tax code, keeping those marginal tax rates low. let's not create a worse in the distortions that already exist in the tax code. dagen: great to see you. take care. we will see you soon. connell: there it is. closing loopholes with norquist. we consider that a tax hike. dagen: lindsey graham. you made the point. loud and clear. a lot of people backing off. connell: backing off the pledge. people will be losing their benefits at the end of the year if congress does not act now....
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they're for tax changes that would save their companies over $100 billion a year. to take a hard look at the views these ceos are espousing let's bring in bill cohen bloomberg view columnist and author of "money and power" how goldman sachs came to rule the world. and lynn, let me start with you is this campaign to fix the debt just a trojan horse behind which the ceos are trying to implement? things that would be really good for them? >> i think it is. i think they were really hoping some of them that mitt romney might win the election and get some of these things done without them having to go public but now, as we just saw lloyd blankfein and others are going on a public campaign to convince americans we can't afford social safety net programs and they need a windfall and tax breaks. the spirit of giving is a little hard to find among some of them. >> eliot: bill, you have been critical of your former brethren on wall street. you've been rational. you have to admit they're not the best messengers for this right now. >> they're terrible messengers. i don't really
they're for tax changes that would save their companies over $100 billion a year. to take a hard look at the views these ceos are espousing let's bring in bill cohen bloomberg view columnist and author of "money and power" how goldman sachs came to rule the world. and lynn, let me start with you is this campaign to fix the debt just a trojan horse behind which the ceos are trying to implement? things that would be really good for them? >> i think it is. i think they were really...
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and the president can push the tax the tax rates on the rich but the republicans are creeding more tax grounds on potentially adding to that with limited deductions on the wealthy, or, say, they focus only on deductions there is a scenario where they limit the deductions and write offs and the rich pay more in taxes than they would if they just raised the rates behalf, to where they were during the time of bill clinton? >> and that is why everything is just talk. just talk. >>neil: you think they will have an incredible deal by the end of the year? >>guest: i have told you before, i'm slightly optimistic. you cannot be more than that when it comes to negotiations. >>neil: since the ice cream bet you hedging because i think you know you got lucky and now you hedge a lot. you sound like a tv anchor. >>guest: i don't want do lose a bet but cut while i'm ahead and i am not irrationale. i don't think either the president or congress wants to become unpopular and congress now is at 18 percent again, do they want to go to system digits? i don't think so. >>neil: grover norquist was here and h
and the president can push the tax the tax rates on the rich but the republicans are creeding more tax grounds on potentially adding to that with limited deductions on the wealthy, or, say, they focus only on deductions there is a scenario where they limit the deductions and write offs and the rich pay more in taxes than they would if they just raised the rates behalf, to where they were during the time of bill clinton? >> and that is why everything is just talk. just talk. >>neil:...
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anytime you reform the tax code, you're going to want to do it in a way that stabilizes the tax base. you're creating a more reliable, sustainable base. that might mean some americans pay more, but that doesn't necessarily amount to a tax increase, what you're trying to do here is to stabilize the revenue stream. when you say it doesn't amount to a tax increase in the aggregate, that obviously is the center of this whole issue, especially when it comes to the pledge i know you signed with grover norquist. he said i'm okay with closing loopholes, but it has to be revenue neutral. but everyone knows to get a deal done, it can't be neutral. are you open to a deal that is not revenue neutral? >> what i'm open to is the idea of acknowledging the fact that we can bring in on average 18.5% of gdp through our revenue stream. that's what our tax system is capable of doing in the united states. that remains a constant. whether or top rate is at 35% as it is now or 75% as it was back in the early 1980s. that's a relative concept. what i want is for us to produce a steady stream of 18.5% rather t
anytime you reform the tax code, you're going to want to do it in a way that stabilizes the tax base. you're creating a more reliable, sustainable base. that might mean some americans pay more, but that doesn't necessarily amount to a tax increase, what you're trying to do here is to stabilize the revenue stream. when you say it doesn't amount to a tax increase in the aggregate, that obviously is the center of this whole issue, especially when it comes to the pledge i know you signed with...
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when is a tax increase not really a tax increase. if you don't raise the top rate, if you were talking to the senator before, but you do cap deductions, for the wealthy, does that count as a tax increase? in my book it does count. would republicans then be able to say, well, we didn't raise the top rate? so i think what we see going on right now is a lot of theatrics, you see some republicans in the senate. and i would argue that the house republicans are the ones we really need to hear from, because they're the most dug in on the tax question. so you hear some republicans kind of saying, you know, that's a pledge that was 20 years ago, et cetera, et cetera. bottom line, wolf. you need to have entitlement reform and those spending cuts on the table and you need to have tax increases on the table. then they can all hold hands and jump off the cliff together. >> even though the styles that republicans are using to pedal their position right now seems to be shifting the substance of the position. seems to be pretty much the same as it's
when is a tax increase not really a tax increase. if you don't raise the top rate, if you were talking to the senator before, but you do cap deductions, for the wealthy, does that count as a tax increase? in my book it does count. would republicans then be able to say, well, we didn't raise the top rate? so i think what we see going on right now is a lot of theatrics, you see some republicans in the senate. and i would argue that the house republicans are the ones we really need to hear from,...
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that wasn't his tax policy. you can have financial problems from printing too much money and inflation under carter, not just high tax rates but inflation. if buffet goes back and looks at how the kennedy years did after the marginal tax rate cuts and the reagan years, he'd understand that economic growth -- you know, he says he made a lot of money selling bonds. the question is how many money the people who invested in those bonds made, we need economic growth and not higher taxes. if the government taking a dollar aaway, that dollar is not available to be invested. the return on that dollar is zero. for buffet to not understand if you take money out of the economy it's gone is a little bit odd. he's willing to write it. if he wants to write a check, he should write a check and shut up about what everyone else should do. >> the richest guy in america things he should make more taxes. >> then do so. >> fwri in policies that make all people do that. grover as always combative fun and good to talk with you. a man
that wasn't his tax policy. you can have financial problems from printing too much money and inflation under carter, not just high tax rates but inflation. if buffet goes back and looks at how the kennedy years did after the marginal tax rate cuts and the reagan years, he'd understand that economic growth -- you know, he says he made a lot of money selling bonds. the question is how many money the people who invested in those bonds made, we need economic growth and not higher taxes. if the...
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own taxes. it's a sham and they ought to be rolled out of town if people understand what they were talking about. >> if people are worried about how they're going to take care of the homeless, how schools will be able to accommodate 30 kids in the class rom how people will be able to make ends meet when unemployment disappears. they can't be here. they can't afford it. they come here and write it off in their taxes $20 million a year ceos from these corporations, and continue to spread the hysteria and--and if their plan goes through the austerity plan, they and their company and their bonuses are actually the only thing that is going to improve in this economy. >> eliot: as they have over the past couple of years. income disparity is worse and worse and incomes are going up. lloyd blankfein telling people that they people should not expect to work for 25 years and then retire for 30. i don't think he understands what social security is all about. >>> the hispanic caucus said no today on a repub
own taxes. it's a sham and they ought to be rolled out of town if people understand what they were talking about. >> if people are worried about how they're going to take care of the homeless, how schools will be able to accommodate 30 kids in the class rom how people will be able to make ends meet when unemployment disappears. they can't be here. they can't afford it. they come here and write it off in their taxes $20 million a year ceos from these corporations, and continue to spread...
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why don't you be responsible and raise taxes, put your finger prints on a tax increase to pay for our bigger government. republicans said no. harry reid has had a hissy fit for four years now, i'm happy the republicans would not raise taxes to pay for is bigger government. the problem is the american people don't want their taxes raised. lou: what i asked was how you feel? >> i am pleased as punch. harry reid, at haing a hissy fit at me, he's really mad at the ameican people for not wanting to raise axes. he personalizes it with me. lou: what about those folks like senator john mccain, senator lindsay gramm, senator chambliss the list goes on. i mea -- >> it doesn'go on. it does not go on. here's theood news. all the people who last week and said we might raise taxes under certain circumstaes with the same people who said that two years ago. and everyews dia outlet in the country has said the last week, would you like to be famous? would you like to be called important and influential? come to our tv station and announced u areefor tax increases and we will tell everyone you are impor
why don't you be responsible and raise taxes, put your finger prints on a tax increase to pay for our bigger government. republicans said no. harry reid has had a hissy fit for four years now, i'm happy the republicans would not raise taxes to pay for is bigger government. the problem is the american people don't want their taxes raised. lou: what i asked was how you feel? >> i am pleased as punch. harry reid, at haing a hissy fit at me, he's really mad at the ameican people for not...
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he says i would raise taxes if. then he lists this incredible list of reforms and entitlements that the democrats would never give him. i suggested, senator, you're offering to trade a tax increase for a pink unicorn that doesn't exist. >> you're saying this is never going to happen. because if a republican says, you know what, i am actually not going to go with the pledge that i have signed and i'm going to, you know, do this compromise and vote for that, would you then target that lawmaker? would you say, you know, you're lying. you changed your mind from the pledge. now i'm going to put the substantial weight and efforts of your organization to try to unseat that republican candidate? >> george hervert walker bush broke his commitment to the american people. i don't think the americans for tax reform even put out a press release. somehow the american people figured out he broke his commitment. he couldn't get 38% of the vote when he ran in a general. he didn't lose in a primary. he lost in a general election. rai
he says i would raise taxes if. then he lists this incredible list of reforms and entitlements that the democrats would never give him. i suggested, senator, you're offering to trade a tax increase for a pink unicorn that doesn't exist. >> you're saying this is never going to happen. because if a republican says, you know what, i am actually not going to go with the pledge that i have signed and i'm going to, you know, do this compromise and vote for that, would you then target that...
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. >> i myself am opposeed to tax increases. >> i don't think if you raise taxes 100% on the wealthy. you're not going to fix the revenue problems. >> all our democratic colleagues want to talk about is more taxes, more taxes more revenue. >> we never cut spending. >> you want additional revenue by capping deductions. >> i will not raise tax rates to do it. i will cap deductions. >> cenk: aah, so they don't want to raise the rates. what they want to do is take away things like your home mortgage deduction. you know who that hits, the middle class. of course! of course! they're going to take most of it from the middle class. you think they're going to give up tax cuts to the rich? this republican party? it's mainly a trick. nonetheless, grover norquist said not enough, nin nin nin is that too much. >> they need to focus on reforming government not raise taxes to pay for bigger government each year. it's not working. it's not easy. but throwing up your hands and saying maybe i'll throw up taxes instead of governing is not the way to go. >> cenk: you know raising taxes is also governing.
. >> i myself am opposeed to tax increases. >> i don't think if you raise taxes 100% on the wealthy. you're not going to fix the revenue problems. >> all our democratic colleagues want to talk about is more taxes, more taxes more revenue. >> we never cut spending. >> you want additional revenue by capping deductions. >> i will not raise tax rates to do it. i will cap deductions. >> cenk: aah, so they don't want to raise the rates. what they want to do...
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rates or effective tax rates. there's ways of doing that. >> reporter: with the clock ticking and markets getting nervous, talks begin again this week amid tentative steps toward common ground. >> we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have to show the world we're adults. the election is over. >> nbc's mike viqueira reporting. >>> overseas to egypt where the country's newly elected leader has granted himself unchecked power sparking days of clashes and sending the country's stock market into a freefall. our reporter is in cairo with the very latest. ayman, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. egypt's stock market opened for a second straight day, and it plunged already by 4%. now, that's already a day after it lost 10%, and officials there had to stop trading just to prevent it from declining any further. that's the economic turmoil this country finds itself in. there are tons of other political and social unrest unfolding across the egyptian capital, cairo. a short while from now, mourners are going to be prayi
rates or effective tax rates. there's ways of doing that. >> reporter: with the clock ticking and markets getting nervous, talks begin again this week amid tentative steps toward common ground. >> we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have to show the world we're adults. the election is over. >> nbc's mike viqueira reporting. >>> overseas to egypt where the country's newly elected leader has granted himself unchecked power sparking days of clashes and sending the...
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grover norquist's tax pledge could be history. and all eyes are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the speaker does have to b negotiating a deal. >> i did a spit take with my fruity pebbles watching "morning joe" because eric cantor's tone was unlike anything i've ever heard. his office is saying oh, no, he's against raising marginal rates, but it's clear that in the scheme of things, the biggest piece is does john boehner have enough running room to strike a deal involving some new revenue. i still am of the belief that the vote in the house, which will be a cliff hanger no matter what happens amongst the leaders in the white house, it will be a tough vote. i t
grover norquist's tax pledge could be history. and all eyes are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the...
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did the comprehensive tax reform. clinton, welfare reform and balanced the budget for multiple years in the late 1990's. this is the perfect time to solve single biggest problem confronting our country and we are anxious to sit down and get the job done. \[inaudible question] >> dick durbin says as talks continue on of this booklet democrats must be open to painful topics, including medicare and medicaid. he was at the center for american progress for about 45 minutes. >> good morning, everyone. thank you for being here. i am the president of the center for american progress. we are thrilled to have senator durbin here today to talk about his views on the fiscal cliff. as we engage in this debate, i wanted to lay out a few principles that are critical as washington becomes obsessed with this set of issues. the elections have consequences. at c.a.p., we have argued that the issues that are really framing the fiscal debate and fiscal cliff were ones that were litigated in the election context. the president did not have
did the comprehensive tax reform. clinton, welfare reform and balanced the budget for multiple years in the late 1990's. this is the perfect time to solve single biggest problem confronting our country and we are anxious to sit down and get the job done. \[inaudible question] >> dick durbin says as talks continue on of this booklet democrats must be open to painful topics, including medicare and medicaid. he was at the center for american progress for about 45 minutes. >> good...
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i've got a long track record of not only holding the line on taxes but reducing taxes. and i believe that we have too much -- at the national level, too much taxation, too much regulation but, no, i did not sign the pledge. >> let me ask you about the idea that revenues are on the table as the speaker has said. i'm curious what that really means. does that signal a willingness on the part of the gop to see some people's taxes go up, or does it mean that the revenue increases will derive from economic growth and -- >> speaker boehner and republicans are reaching out to the administration. speaker boehner has said we'll put revenue on the table, not through higher tax rates but through closing loopholes and limiting deductions. that accomplishes exactly what the administration has demanded. >> but that means somebody's taxes will go up. >> sure. >> if you close loopholes an deductions. >> we'll make sure rates don't go up so you don't impact small businesses or middle class americans who obviously are struggling to get going and get back to work and get our economy going.
i've got a long track record of not only holding the line on taxes but reducing taxes. and i believe that we have too much -- at the national level, too much taxation, too much regulation but, no, i did not sign the pledge. >> let me ask you about the idea that revenues are on the table as the speaker has said. i'm curious what that really means. does that signal a willingness on the part of the gop to see some people's taxes go up, or does it mean that the revenue increases will derive...
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everybody's talking about increasing the tax -- tax revenue on the rich. why aren't we talking about cutting the spending? how about, first of all, we start with a budget that harry reid under his leadership in the senate has not passed a budget in over three years. so to cut, you have to have a budget. and then let's start with the cuts that were promised to reagan and george h.w. bush that never came through. when they gave the tax increases and the cuts never came through. let's start there and let's go forward. >> amy kremer, thanks for coming on the program. >> thanks for having me. >>> more protests in egypt. hours before a huge rally against mohamed morsi. many had been camping out for the demonstration against the president who issued several decrees last week that gives him almost absolute power. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9
everybody's talking about increasing the tax -- tax revenue on the rich. why aren't we talking about cutting the spending? how about, first of all, we start with a budget that harry reid under his leadership in the senate has not passed a budget in over three years. so to cut, you have to have a budget. and then let's start with the cuts that were promised to reagan and george h.w. bush that never came through. when they gave the tax increases and the cuts never came through. let's start there...
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america who can afford to do so to pay a little more in taxes. but when you start talking about some kind of grand bargain where you're cutting medicare and medicaid, we're talking about people's lives and health care. this is part of the reason why the president doesn't want social security to be part of it. why folk on the left are still angry that something like medicare or medicaid are sort of used as false equivalencies with tax increases. we have to think about people's real lives and health care really addresses those issues versus wealthy folk paying a little more. >> david, if that's the case, if professor peterson is right, why then did the president when he was in the process of negotiating a grand bargain with speaker boehner, agree to suggest or even imply that, for example, the age of qualification for certain of these entitlements would go up? >> the president has decided that the way to deal with this overall, i'm not saying this is right or wrong, is that we have divided government which means we're going to try to take care of t
america who can afford to do so to pay a little more in taxes. but when you start talking about some kind of grand bargain where you're cutting medicare and medicaid, we're talking about people's lives and health care. this is part of the reason why the president doesn't want social security to be part of it. why folk on the left are still angry that something like medicare or medicaid are sort of used as false equivalencies with tax increases. we have to think about people's real lives and...
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increase tax top tax and he was bent over the way he was wrong. nixon defended a he was wrong or can't either but so is right but tom nobody was paying ninety percent for real because there's because what happens is the democrats when they had three million dollars a quick take on audio but everybody did their businesses so that they could pay their employees of these away democrats raise the rates so that they can sell deductions that's how the game is played that is well that's how they always corazon republicans want to lower the rates that so you can't sell deductions if the rates are low the reality though is that during that period of time when the top tax rate topping them tax rate was ninety one seventy four percent from from one hundred thirty five one hundred thirty three nine hundred thirty three ok no until until the eisenhower here in the regular mr ok during that period of time you had you had c.e.o.'s who were not living in mansions they were you know and only one private well you had some people who were having rich you didn't have
increase tax top tax and he was bent over the way he was wrong. nixon defended a he was wrong or can't either but so is right but tom nobody was paying ninety percent for real because there's because what happens is the democrats when they had three million dollars a quick take on audio but everybody did their businesses so that they could pay their employees of these away democrats raise the rates so that they can sell deductions that's how the game is played that is well that's how they...
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taxes could go up but that does not constitute voting for a tax increase. a meeting with a big list from goldman sachs we're back after the break. as i looked out across the battlefield at antietam. i saw the future of one great nation. but only barely, because the sun was like, way in my grill. george mcclellan, the general, hands me his pair of foster grant sunglasses, and i could see! my wife, mary todd, found them so fetching. >> he looked so fine i started to call him babe-raham lincoln. >> i was like, mary, please. >> you look like a baby, a literal child. i bought a pair online, shipped to 115 main st., that's my gettysburg address. i'm funny. i find them to be affordable frames, of the people, for the people, and, not, by the people, that's part of this freedom thing. end slavery, let people buy awesome sunglasses. who's behind those foster grants? abraham stinkin' lincoln. >> i came up with that slogan myself. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's "the stephanie miller show." [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephan
taxes could go up but that does not constitute voting for a tax increase. a meeting with a big list from goldman sachs we're back after the break. as i looked out across the battlefield at antietam. i saw the future of one great nation. but only barely, because the sun was like, way in my grill. george mcclellan, the general, hands me his pair of foster grant sunglasses, and i could see! my wife, mary todd, found them so fetching. >> he looked so fine i started to call him babe-raham...
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certainty about taxes. certainty about spending in congress and certainty about our commitment to lower the debt. >> how do you argue that you are considering all elements of reform if in fact you're going to stick by the norquist pledge. is there anything wrong with as senator graham has said with saying i made that pledge back then but my job is to be a senator every single day and i feel differently now? >> i'm not arguing about a pledge whatsoever. it's our job to be a senator every single day. we have to take on the problems of the day. we have a major problem. i think reforming the code makes the most sense. it worked in 1986 when we lowered rates at the top margin from 70 to 28. but expanded revenue because we cleared the base out. removed a lot of deductions and had rates that were lowered applied against a much higher base which raised revenue. >> you mention the mortgage interest deduction. big piece in the "times" about what that would do to housing. is that the third rail? do we dare touch that
certainty about taxes. certainty about spending in congress and certainty about our commitment to lower the debt. >> how do you argue that you are considering all elements of reform if in fact you're going to stick by the norquist pledge. is there anything wrong with as senator graham has said with saying i made that pledge back then but my job is to be a senator every single day and i feel differently now? >> i'm not arguing about a pledge whatsoever. it's our job to be a senator...
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one is the bush tax cuts are expiring. we want to make sure they stay the same for 98% of the people and just those over $250,000 will go back to the clinton rates. and we had the greatest prosperity under bill clinton. and everybody knows that. 23 million jobs, balanced budgets, all the rest. it's not going to hurt anything. the second thing, the automatic spending cuts. so my view is we can climb down that cliff by doing what the president says on taxes, bringing home the money from the wars, and stopping those automatic cuts. we're off the cliff. and then we get together with goodwill, right in january with the new senate and the new house, and we hammer out the long-range solutions to all this. >> i want to you listen to something that your colleague, pattie murray, from washington state said on alex wagner's show about this fiscal cliff and her attitude toward it. i want to you react to it. >> sure. >> it's not a good idea to go over the fiscal cliff. no one wants to see that happen. it is a bad idea. but a worse idea
one is the bush tax cuts are expiring. we want to make sure they stay the same for 98% of the people and just those over $250,000 will go back to the clinton rates. and we had the greatest prosperity under bill clinton. and everybody knows that. 23 million jobs, balanced budgets, all the rest. it's not going to hurt anything. the second thing, the automatic spending cuts. so my view is we can climb down that cliff by doing what the president says on taxes, bringing home the money from the wars,...
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i mentioned the tax issues. >> the tax issues people have shown that they don't care about it. we have seen it. people still don't change the buying habits yet. >> my point. >> you like the samsung. >> and i own google. it is the closest to creating its own ecosystem to the likeness of the apple. they are every place. they give you so many choices. you don't have the one stop shopping with the iphone. you get the phones and everything else that comes along with it. >> everything else? search is the biggest thing. self drive car. >> look at those legs. >> i have great legs. >> that was a few years before. >> now you can really lift the packages. >> it's a family show. >> i meant packages. >> it's a family show. put a ribbon on that. >>> jane wells joins us with a look at what is going on next. >> nice package, guy. we are going to talk poker, football and if people left their hearts in san francisco where did they leave their brains? we will find out after the break. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to pr
i mentioned the tax issues. >> the tax issues people have shown that they don't care about it. we have seen it. people still don't change the buying habits yet. >> my point. >> you like the samsung. >> and i own google. it is the closest to creating its own ecosystem to the likeness of the apple. they are every place. they give you so many choices. you don't have the one stop shopping with the iphone. you get the phones and everything else that comes along with it....